Over the years a series of experiments have show differences between American and Asian in terms of the way the brain works. Two examples I give on our accreditation courses are
- the multiple experiments with show a difference between a focus on content, and one on context when scanning pictures,
- the cow, chicken & grass test from The Geography of Thought. If you have not done this before, then before you read further thick quickly: which if the three is the odd one out?
it may be that the content-context distinction is more closely linked to the co-evolution of language and the brain, although both are obviously related. In this I am following Deacon’s outstanding work in The Symbolic Species, and some of my own experimental extensions of the cow, chicken & grass test. More specifically I want to suggest that the difference between phonetic and pictorial alphabets may be one of the main factors in play. The picture here is from this press release, following through from a blog by Thinking Meat. You can see a larger version here. The experiment reported in effect picks up on the cognitive-context work with the addition of a MNR scanner. I will describe the two sets of material and then summarise my speculation.
So firstly to the various experiments. There are a whole range of these, mainly comparing American and Chinese, or American and Japanese subjects. The overall conclusion is that American students have a tendency to focus on the objects in a picture, whereas Asian’s look at the whole context. This means that American’s are more likely to see changes in the object itself. This is also linked to work which shows the scanning range in Asian students is roughly twice that of Americans, although neither are high, 10% and 5% at maximum attention (If anyone has the reference for this data I would appreciated it. I found it in a journal but forgot to take down the reference or keep the paper, one of the problems with reading on line). The MNR scanning data referenced above and other tests all show this object-context difference.
The Cow, chicken and grass test is a simple one. Nisbett reports that the majority of Americans will choose grass, while Asians choose chicken. The reason suggested is that American’s come from the Aristotelian tradition of categorisation and grass is a vegetable while the other two are animals. In contrast Asians see things in terms of relationships, and the cow has a relationship with grass. The following quote, cleaned from a Chinese Embassy publication (which is interesting of itself), suggests two explanations:
Psychologists watching American and Japanese families playing with toys have also noted this difference. "An American mother will say: ‘Look Billy, a truck. It's shiny and has wheels.' The focus is on the object," explains Nisbett. By contrast, Japanese mothers stress context saying things like, "I push the truck to you and you push it to me. When you throw it at the wall, the wall says ‘ouch'."Now I think there are probably two other factors in play, although I don’t know of any direct research. These are:
Nisbett also cites language development in the cultures. "To Westerners it seems obvious that babies learn nouns morys. But while this is the case in the West, studies show that Korean and Chinese children pick up verbs – which relate objects to each other - more easily.
- The differences between phonetic and pictorial alphabets. In a phonetic language like english you can understand the language by pronouncing the letters and building structures such as sentences etc. Analysis of language and assumptions of common meaning which is context free are more likely in this environment. In contrast pictorial languages provide images, which produce not just an analytic response, but also an aesthetic one. My Chinese friends tell me that you have to understand the context of each image in history and literature in order to fully understand its use. Now there are elements of this in phonetic languages, the use of poetry and cultural references around key phrases, but it is a development of the language to accommodate aesthetics, not a fundamental part of the language itself. Deacon’s work referenced above establishes that the brain and language have co-evolved over time. Language evolves faster than the brain, and has developed to be learnt by people who have not yet learnt how to learn. The evolutionary advantage of this is self-evident but it has some interesting consequences. One is to take away the base assumptions of Chomsky’s theories of language on which much of information technology depends; there are no deep structures which mean that there are very strict limits on common meaning. However as Deacon points out the brain is also influenced by language. So a cultural group with a language based on understanding context is going to influence the brain’s development.
- I have taken the cow-chicken-grass test to multiple conferences around the world. but regrettably have not kept precise notes. However I can report that the Asian-American split tends to be 60:40 and the groups who exclude chicken include African, Southern Europe, Latin American and the Celtic Countries of Europe. In contrast, exclusion of grass is the norm in North America, England and Northern-Europe - in other words Anglo-Saxon. So this seems to be a different pattern from one based on language. I think this may relate to the difference between atomistic societies which emphasise the individual, and individual rights (including social contract theory) and those which are more collective in nature, focusing on relationships and obligations. You can also see a religious difference here: Catholic/Hindu/Animism etc form one pattern, while Protestantism, with its emphasis on an individual relationship to God is in the categorisation school.
Appreciating the nuances of Kipling might be a goal here:
OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,There is also some interesting and relating material here, looking at different critical reactions to Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!
Comments (13)
Isn't this research reinforcing Edward T. Hall's conclusions about high-context and low-context cultures?
Posted by Stephanie West Allen
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May 5, 2007 3:43 PM
Posted on May 5, 2007 15:43
Interesting stuff. My odd one out was "chicken" because it was the only word with 2 vowels. Perhaps I was taking the Magritte approach: "ceci ce n'est pas un cow/chicken/grass".....it is actually a set of words.
Some other points: firstly I felt that the experiment itself displayed Aristotlean charactersitics: ie the categorisation your refer to. Then of course, you could (if you really wanted to) expand the experiment and correlate all sorts of data......to what end?
Here I am unclear about the implications (for "multi-cutural studies" and got a bit lost when you describe the links to complex systems. Could you explain in more detail?
Best regards, David.
Posted by David | May 6, 2007 9:46 AM
Posted on May 6, 2007 09:46
I think its worth remembering that Hall's work was on intercultural communication and in a very specific context, namely US-Japanese post war. However I think it is similar and part of a crowing understanding of the differences.
David - I think one failure of The Geography of Thought is that it tends to categorisation. In my experience audiences tend to split 60:40. I prefer to see the selection as a coalesence or attractor of meaning rather than a category. This is more emphasis on context as it implies there will be many attractors and our identity will emerge from our interactions with the world and the attractors that arise from our evolution and expereince.
Posted by Dave Snowden
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May 6, 2007 10:24 AM
Posted on May 6, 2007 10:24
On the issue of the implications for multi-culural studies. I plan a longer post on this at some stage, and there will also be some stuff in the book. At the moment if you look at the field it is catgorisation and caually based (Hofstede being the exemplar of evil here). If we think about culture as a landscape, with attractors and barriers, along with modulators which can be amplified and dampened, they we have a dynamic model that only categorises at the extremes of behaviour.
Posted by Dave Snowden
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May 6, 2007 10:27 AM
Posted on May 6, 2007 10:27
The book is mentioned again!
More seriously: about categorization. At least it's a very strong tendency. People just LIKE to categorize. Offloading cognitive effort. Secutity. Now that they told me which Myers-Briggs type I am, now I understand why I see things that way! Ordered XOR unordered?
One way beyond simple categorization is categorization in multiple dimensions which are not related to each other (orthogonal). It's a little bit less stereotye but as soon as the number of dimenions gets too big, I see people switch off. Geert Hofstede uses 5 (which I don't like, in particular "masculinity"), Fons Tromenaars used 7 which I liked better, others use even more. Does it help? Does it help if we become a point in a 25-dimensional hyperspace instead of being boxed into one of 16 Myers-Briggs categories? And who understands it?
The landscape model might be an interesting way out. But it has to be more than a hyperplane with peaks and valleys, and a sign "you are here". And I'm sure that it will not appeal to everyone. I think it will be very complemtary to narrative - which is a good thing.
Challenges ahead. Culture and Communication, the C-words, the famous wildcards.
Posted by christianhauck
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May 6, 2007 5:32 PM
Posted on May 6, 2007 17:32
my choice was "cow" cos it had strong and obvious relationships with other two whereas the other two didn't (have strong relationships with both other entitites).
i think that most people answering the question will answer based on what they think the interviewer is asking for rather than what genuinely might occur to them at that moment.
Posted by roseg | May 7, 2007 4:10 AM
Posted on May 7, 2007 04:10
As the husband of a linguistics and cross cultural communication lecturer I have obviously absorbed enough of the possibilities for alternatives that I was paralysed by the question.
I think grass was my immediate response, but before I had settled on that choice it was crowded out by chicken which was equally strong.
Then I locked up, unable to choose between equally valid responses.
Posted by Earl Mardle | May 8, 2007 9:58 AM
Posted on May 8, 2007 09:58
Dave,
This is like going back to university, only I get to determine how well I'm doing...
To offer you one more piece of data: I chose "chicken". I was born in the south west of Ireland (Celtic?) of parental stock from the same fields. I learned my first language in Limerick.
But I went to live among the anglo-saxons and others when I was 25, less than half my current age. So I steeped myself in their ways, avoiding much contact with celts. I must have modified my ways of seeing there. I re-migrated back to the south of Ireland where I am struggling to fit in.
We had chickens at home, but no cows. I used to cut the grass. All of which 'explains' my choice.
Posted by Omaniblog | May 8, 2007 8:55 PM
Posted on May 8, 2007 20:55
Well, I'm from New Zealand, a fairly Anglo-Saxon culture, and I chose 'chicken' straight off, because cows eat grass. I was surprised by how sure I was about it.
Posted by Ghet | May 9, 2007 1:00 AM
Posted on May 9, 2007 01:00
Ghet, this is what really fascinates me. Quote: "I was surprised by how sure I was about it." Once we think we understand something, how sure we are that we are right.
Posted by christianhauck
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May 9, 2007 9:06 AM
Posted on May 9, 2007 09:06
Also from NZ, I chose grass instantly, and I really wish I had chosen chicken...
Posted by Toby | May 11, 2007 10:06 AM
Posted on May 11, 2007 10:06
Oh sh*t its one of those questions..I hope I don't give a dumb answer..Is it a chicken joke..Agghh..I need to choose quick...think of a reason...
Cows and chickens are animals ..? Nope too obvious...
Cows eat grass? Nope..So do chickens..
Grass doesn't eat anything...
Agghhh - back to grass again..!
Posted by loberider | May 30, 2007 12:59 PM
Posted on May 30, 2007 12:59
Oh sh*t its one of those odd one out questions..I hope I don't give a dumb answer....Agghh..I need to choose quick...think of a reason...
Cows and chickens are animals ..? Nope too obvious...
Cows eat grass? Nope..So do chickens..
Grass doesn't eat anything...
Agghhh - back to grass again..!
Help..
Posted by loberider | May 30, 2007 3:41 PM
Posted on May 30, 2007 15:41